"please tell me your opinion of something totally unrelated to the posted article so that I can sea lion all over it regardless of what it is, it's the only way I know. if you don't tell me I'll make it up for you so I can do it anyway"

"Funny how you are ignoring my invitations to a fake debate about unrelated articles (because I like to sealion and was in fact banned for doing this exact thing in the past)"

Hmm, I just checked it again and surprise, this article is still not about Harris.

Yes, the author of this article is helping Trump promote that he "worked" at McDonald's even though it was basically a set, to make low income individuals believe that he's "one of them", and you are spreading it. You shared propaganda like Trump wants, and you knew that when you posted it.

This is not a Harris article, no matter how much you sealion and attempt to make it about her.

Reddit mirror link: https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/pics/comments/1g88apd/it_was_all_staged_trump_did_not_work_mcdonalds/

That's exactly what I just said, yes. It was also (unsurprisingly) staged. I'm blaming you for sharing trump's propaganda as usual, sorry that it went over your head.

Yes, the banks know. Their cut is usually large enough for them to look the other way.

Yeah, he's been showing his true motives directly lately, rather than just pretending to be third party

who cares about this stunt? He's not suffering and it just promotes him on the right.

The GOP wants to send you to war and then question your eligibility to vote, all while pretending to be thankful for your service.

Archive link: https://archive.ph/0ui8I

Voted no on it yesterday. Fuck Brian Heywood.

Your attitude to polling feels a bit like right wing attitudes towards lgbtq stuff "I don't get it, I don't want to learn about it so I dislike it!"

And this is where I call it. You're saying my (rightful) distrust of polling is comparable to straight up bigotry? They are not even close to the same thing, and honestly as a queer it's pretty disgusting to see you bring up something that I've battled against my entire life all so you can feel like you're the smartest one in the room.

I now see that you don't really give a shit, and just want desperately to be right. I don't need to talk to you about this any more.

I didn't write the propaganda, I just posted it! Posting propaganda isn't against the rules, so luckily I can hide behind the mods for posting it.

And if you or anyone else is dumb enough to see "trump has a 51% chance of winning" and that somehow makes you not want to vote, damn, how many tries does it take you to put your shoes on the correct feet? Three?

I already voted, so don't attempt insinuate that I'm not voting. You do realize that most people do not vote, right? And that most people are indeed idiots when it comes to politics? It's those people that will not turn out when it's needed because they saw a pollster say their candidate was ahead.

We're in a country where a known racist conman was elected.

They sure didn't get 2016 right, which is what I referenced and what caused distrust. Just because they got 2020 right doesn't mean they'll get 2024 correct. It's meaningless and only serves to make people feel like they don't have to turn out. They definitely don't just "predict the future".

Also, I'm not sure if quoting the very pollsters that got 2016 wrong will make people trust them now. It's certainly not working for me.

No matter what Nate says and how many times you link his website, polls do not matter.

ETA: maybe, just maybe, you're being downvoted because you keep linking the same article from the same pollster to defend polling.

Again, even if he isn't an outright right winger, that's fine. I'm willing to back off on that. But polls do not matter, and in fact the only thing they seem to do is reduce turnout. I really don't care about Nate's thoughts, and never have since 2016. I think a lot of people stopped trusting polls and definitely stopped trusting him back then.

Nate Silver IS a right winger, though, so I don't believe anything on his site, and I especially don't believe him on this topic. Even if he wasn't outright a right winger, polls do not matter and are frequently incorrect for various reasons.

Plus, he's no longer affiliated with 538.

"I dIdN't VoTe fOr EiTher oF tHeM" is their usual response to something like this, even though they're fully aware that voting third party while we have the EC is just voting to spoil the better candidate of the two major parties.